Wednesday, January 5, 2011
Michael Baying it up in New Vegas
I had made an explosive character and decided to name him Michael Bay. If you don't understand why I'd name him after that director, you've never seen one of his films. At any rate, I picked all the Explosive based perks I could get my hands on, and it made for one hell of an awesome playthrough. I normally just used the grenade launcher (the one that like every boomer has) but I'd break out the missile launcher when I felt like doing a bit more killing. I waltz into the Great Kahn's camp and walked into their main house. I've still not figured out how to convince them that Ceaser's Legion is simply using them, but I don't dwell on it too much. I pull out my missile launcher, stand by the door and point it at the wall behind the leader's table and fire. The resulting explosion is so massive that I lose about half my health, my partner gets knocked unconscious, and every Kahn in the building is dead and and flown all over the house (and blown apart). There are 2 things that makes this awesome. The first is that I yelled "Michael Bay!" before I fired the missile. The 2nd is the fact I was using normal missiles. I thought I had shot a high explosive round by the amount of damage I had done, but no. Maybe the fact I named my character Michael Bay made his explosive damage triple or something. If I was a programmer I'd so do that. Add lines of code into the game that some names effected the gameplay in unknown or little known ways. Buck Rogers would make energy weapons do a lot more, and maybe make more aliens show up. I'm sure it would be a fair amount of work to intertwine it through the whole game, but it would be very awesome to see none the less. One day when I'm programming video games I'll be sure to do something like that.
Tuesday, January 4, 2011
Doom 3
I haven't played Doom 3 in a while, but I remember it had a feature I haven't come across in another First Person Shooter. Or I haven't remembered it being an option in anything else. At any rate, one of the options in the menu was to turn off "auto reloading." That is to say that you wouldn't automatically reload when your gun's magazine was empty. I know more than once this threw me off (mostly with the shotgun) because I'd drain the mag into something, and then frantically click the fire button. Freaking out as no shooting was being done, until I'd remember to reload. It's quite embarrassing to admit, what with being a gun nut and all. But I'd really like to see this added to more video games. It really added to the horror aspect of Doom 3 and I really think it would add to the thinking aspect of other tactical shooters. It's not an option I'd ever use in online play (just like turning crosshairs off. I love playing with crosshairs off, but when other people can use that unrealistic advantage I see no reason for me to cripple myself and turn it off. Games like Halo I exclude from this since you have a realistic device that would give you a heads up display in real life) but it's an option I'd really love to use in the campaigns. The level of stress added is amazing, given a change so small. This is a change I see as being fairly simple (coding wise) and something that would really change gameplay. Remember how you never had to reload the pistol or the shotgun from Doom? You had to time a pump with the shotgun, but you never had to reload it. I can only imagine what a hellish time I would have had in Doom had I had to worry about reloading the pistol and the shotgun. But I can't tell you how much I'd still love to see that change.
I like a level of realism in my games that a lot of people think takes away from the fun. They don't want to be limited by real life when they play. A lot of people don't like aiming down weapon sights. A bunch of people hate when weapons do a realistic level of damage. I find that being limited by such things makes a game that much more rewarding. I can go play the Call of Duty 2 campaign on easy and die only from my own stupidity. Or I can play it on veteran and watch myself dieing more often than shooting. But when I finally beat a level, the reward is more than worth the effort. Any idiot can beat a video game with invisibility on. And while it's fun to screw off on easy or play CoD4 with the slow-mo cheat on, there just isn't any reward when you beat the level or kill the final boss. I'm sure I've said it before but I beat MW2 (I like to call it CoD7. Since MW means Mech Warrior to me before it means Modern Warfare, but I digress) on veteran the first time playing it. There were a few challenging points, but nothing that got me stuck for days. Hell, I had it beat in 2 days (totaling under 10 hours of gameplay, if I remember correctly). In contrast, it took me months to beat Rainbow Six Vegas. I had to take EVERY corner tactically. The second I stopped worrying about the enemy was the second I walked around a corner right into a shotgun. When I finally did manage to beat it I felt a level of accomplishment that I hadn't felt since beating CoD2 on veteran years earlier. I'm still trying to beat CoD2 on veteran on my 360 (I'm a PC gamer at heart, so the joysticks won't ever give me the same control as the mouse) but that's another story for another time.
I like a level of realism in my games that a lot of people think takes away from the fun. They don't want to be limited by real life when they play. A lot of people don't like aiming down weapon sights. A bunch of people hate when weapons do a realistic level of damage. I find that being limited by such things makes a game that much more rewarding. I can go play the Call of Duty 2 campaign on easy and die only from my own stupidity. Or I can play it on veteran and watch myself dieing more often than shooting. But when I finally beat a level, the reward is more than worth the effort. Any idiot can beat a video game with invisibility on. And while it's fun to screw off on easy or play CoD4 with the slow-mo cheat on, there just isn't any reward when you beat the level or kill the final boss. I'm sure I've said it before but I beat MW2 (I like to call it CoD7. Since MW means Mech Warrior to me before it means Modern Warfare, but I digress) on veteran the first time playing it. There were a few challenging points, but nothing that got me stuck for days. Hell, I had it beat in 2 days (totaling under 10 hours of gameplay, if I remember correctly). In contrast, it took me months to beat Rainbow Six Vegas. I had to take EVERY corner tactically. The second I stopped worrying about the enemy was the second I walked around a corner right into a shotgun. When I finally did manage to beat it I felt a level of accomplishment that I hadn't felt since beating CoD2 on veteran years earlier. I'm still trying to beat CoD2 on veteran on my 360 (I'm a PC gamer at heart, so the joysticks won't ever give me the same control as the mouse) but that's another story for another time.
Saturday, January 1, 2011
Fallout: New Vegas. Masochist mode!
Yes, that really does say masochist mode. I beat New Vegas and earned every achievement. I've now got every achievement for both the 360 fallout games. This is awesome, but it means there isn't a lot left to push me to play the game through, again. I've beaten it in hardcore mode, and with no xp boost there is no real reason to play it in very hard. Plus it just means your guns are nerfed beyond all reason. So I decided to play it in a new mode. I sat down and made a mental list of all the things that I found too easy with the fallout games.
-too much ammo
-too much health (by which I mean a mass of health packs)
-vats makes dealing with most enemies much easier
Now how can I limit my ammo and health? Hardcore mode really helped, but I can still walk around with infinite stimpacks (I just realized I called them Stempacks all through my last post. I feel like an idiot) and can still have plenty of ammo. So I then came up with a list to "fix" these things. I don't ever want to see this mode put into a game, but I'd suggest at least trying it. I've found it to be quite refreshing.
-game on meduim. This is the perfect balance of my weapons doing good damage and being dealt damage.
-play on hardcore. This goes without saying. it's mostly for the slower working stimpacks though.
-never barter. That means no buying, and no selling. (more on this later).
-never quick travel. (yeah, I gave up on this one pretty fast).
-no repairing items, except with repair kits or paying someone in the wasteland to do it.
So now I can't barter. I decided to allow myself to barter for weapon mods as well as for primers (not for gun powder or cases). But when I do that I have to pay in caps, not items. This means that you can't simply have a mass of bottle caps to buy thousands of rounds of 5.56mm. This also means that you never pick up anything you don't need. As well as making you drop things a lot more often. You can pay people caps for services. Like doctors or bribes. But since you can't sell items you won't have a mass of caps just sitting in reserve for things like this. 50 caps to heal your limbs etc will be a pretty big deal when you don't even have a 500.
The idea behind this was that it would make it more realistic. If I want to go here, I need to take to 20 minutes or so to run there. I decided to not do the first time I got crippled and lacked any more doctors bags. I don't want to spend 30 minutes hobbling to a doctor. And about the 3rd time I got my limbs crippled in combat I decided I had made the right choice. If you can stick with this one, more power to you. I might decided to do it once I get the reduced limb damage perk and some better armor.
This one is the biggest pain in the ass. Period. You end up dropping so many pistols and rifles because you can't sell the spares, and you can't use them to repair your current one. So I'll keep 2, at best. To try and keep my damage as high as possible. I try and keep them in decent shape with the weapon repair kits (which are the main reason to get your repair high) but it only does so much. You can only find so many wrenches in the wasteland to loot. Where this really kills me is armor though. I can't repair armor with those little kits. So I end up having to just deal with the best I can get off of a dead raider. I can pay to have my armor repaired, but it costs a lot to repair armor from an NPC. And a lot is a lot more money than I have. So you really take a lot more damage than you normally would (thus making the game more of challenge).
If you give this a try be sure to tell me how it works for you. It has really changed the game for me, to say the least. I've really loved it, but as I said it isn't something I'd really want to see put into the game as a mode. Repairing guns is a lot of fun! I love being able to fast travel and barter and repair limbs with stimpacks. But if you've played the game 5 times and still want to get a bit more out of the game, I think this mode will give you at least one more play through. And if you decide not to fast travel, it's going to be one long play through.
-too much ammo
-too much health (by which I mean a mass of health packs)
-vats makes dealing with most enemies much easier
Now how can I limit my ammo and health? Hardcore mode really helped, but I can still walk around with infinite stimpacks (I just realized I called them Stempacks all through my last post. I feel like an idiot) and can still have plenty of ammo. So I then came up with a list to "fix" these things. I don't ever want to see this mode put into a game, but I'd suggest at least trying it. I've found it to be quite refreshing.
-game on meduim. This is the perfect balance of my weapons doing good damage and being dealt damage.
-play on hardcore. This goes without saying. it's mostly for the slower working stimpacks though.
-never barter. That means no buying, and no selling. (more on this later).
-never quick travel. (yeah, I gave up on this one pretty fast).
-no repairing items, except with repair kits or paying someone in the wasteland to do it.
So now I can't barter. I decided to allow myself to barter for weapon mods as well as for primers (not for gun powder or cases). But when I do that I have to pay in caps, not items. This means that you can't simply have a mass of bottle caps to buy thousands of rounds of 5.56mm. This also means that you never pick up anything you don't need. As well as making you drop things a lot more often. You can pay people caps for services. Like doctors or bribes. But since you can't sell items you won't have a mass of caps just sitting in reserve for things like this. 50 caps to heal your limbs etc will be a pretty big deal when you don't even have a 500.
The idea behind this was that it would make it more realistic. If I want to go here, I need to take to 20 minutes or so to run there. I decided to not do the first time I got crippled and lacked any more doctors bags. I don't want to spend 30 minutes hobbling to a doctor. And about the 3rd time I got my limbs crippled in combat I decided I had made the right choice. If you can stick with this one, more power to you. I might decided to do it once I get the reduced limb damage perk and some better armor.
This one is the biggest pain in the ass. Period. You end up dropping so many pistols and rifles because you can't sell the spares, and you can't use them to repair your current one. So I'll keep 2, at best. To try and keep my damage as high as possible. I try and keep them in decent shape with the weapon repair kits (which are the main reason to get your repair high) but it only does so much. You can only find so many wrenches in the wasteland to loot. Where this really kills me is armor though. I can't repair armor with those little kits. So I end up having to just deal with the best I can get off of a dead raider. I can pay to have my armor repaired, but it costs a lot to repair armor from an NPC. And a lot is a lot more money than I have. So you really take a lot more damage than you normally would (thus making the game more of challenge).
If you give this a try be sure to tell me how it works for you. It has really changed the game for me, to say the least. I've really loved it, but as I said it isn't something I'd really want to see put into the game as a mode. Repairing guns is a lot of fun! I love being able to fast travel and barter and repair limbs with stimpacks. But if you've played the game 5 times and still want to get a bit more out of the game, I think this mode will give you at least one more play through. And if you decide not to fast travel, it's going to be one long play through.
Dead Money
So the first bit of Fallout: New Vegas DLC game out a little while back. What, 2 weeks? Whatever.
I paid 10 bucks, and got about 10 hours of gameplay (I just managed to beat it in one day). When you think of that on terms of other entertainment to dollar ratios it's really worth the money. A movie is like 8 bucks, and will barely give you 2 hours of fun. A book is rarely 10 hours of reading AND under 10 bucks. That being said, I have a lot of complaints with this DLC. I have noticed that I have more complaints with the new Fallout games than most any other game I've played. I see this as a good thing though. When you really use something, really love it, you start to see areas that you'd change and tweak. Not to make the game "good", because it already is, but to make it flow more to your tastes.
So first thing is first. If you have already played the Dead Money DLC, this paragraph will be mostly boringness, and thus should be skipped (unless you really like reading). Dead Money takes place before the end of the game. It raises the level cap by 5, and adds a few new perks. It also adds a whole new area to the game, but a very small one. After the DLC is loaded you get a radio broadcast that points to a pre-war casino out in the ΓΌber-boonies. You walk into the abandon BoS bunker (finally I figure out what it's for. It was really driving me nuts), get knocked out and lose EVERYTHING just like in The Pitt DLC from Fallout 3. Unlike the Pitt, you'll not see any of that gear until you leave. You wake up to a hologram that tells you that you must gather up a team to break into the casino. If you don't work together, he'll set off the bomb collar around your neck and find new people to do it.
The character I used was my level 30 character. The one I had been using to collect everything I could and go everywhere I could. So I was kinda pissed that I couldn't use my cool weapons. But I understand that the DLC would be "boring" if you walked into it with a million stem-packs and more ammo than you could ever use. This DLC played pretty much nothing like New Vegas did. I loved it! But I also love New Vegas. It's kinda hard to explain but it was a really fun little add on. So the area is set up like a European town. tiny cobbled roads (too small for cars), lots of tile and fountains. It's really quite beautiful. But of course, nothing in the wasteland looks like it did 200+ years ago, and this is no exception. There are new monsters that are a real pain (mostly because you have limited health without your mass of stem packs and lack of ammo caches worthy of a third world country) and this pollution that slowly drains your health while in it. And by slowly I mean "At level 30, I couldn't stand in the shit for a minute without dieing." There is nothing you can do about this. Hazmat suits are apparently destroyed by the stuff (the metal fittings at least. Trapping the wearer inside, at best) so, even if you had one, it wouldn't help. The monsters are humanoid, and wear some form of chemical suit that seems to either protect them, or protected them enough to let them built up an immunity to the crap. To kill these enemies, you need to break of a limb. If you deplete their health, they fall down dead for about 20 seconds, and then stand back up with full health and attack again. So you either target their limbs in vats, or knock them down and blow their head off with a shotgun when they finally go down. Their weapons aren't too bad to deal with at least. They have throwing spears, stabbing spears, bear trap fists and gas bombs. The gas bombs are kind of a pain, but they don't do too much damage and aren't used all that much.
I'd go more into detail about this DLC, but I'm not here to review games, I'm here to talk about the random crap that happens to me while playing them. So lets go do that!
First off there is a radio broadcast that will set off your bomb collar. So you have to do things like turn of ham radios (FINALLY! They get used for something. They kinda were in Fallout 3 I guess, but still. I've been turning them on for ever simply because I can) or shooting radios on the wall (feels like playing Metal Gear Solid at times). Oh and turning off the radio broadcasts via computer terminals (because some radios are bullet proof, or something). The first time you have to worry about this is when you go to pick up DOG. He is a super mutant (Nightkin) sitting in a cage in the police station. The second you walk in Elijah talks to you through your pipboy (he was the hologram dude). I didn't hear all of what he said the first time (I was busy playing a Frank Sinatra CD in the real world, because this place lacks the music stations. And because Frank Sinatra is awesome like that) and it proved to be pretty annoying to figure out what he meant. I see DOG sitting in a cage, crying or something, and start walking to him. My collar starts beeping. "Oh cool. It has like a tracking system in it or something" is exactly what I think to myself just before it blows my head off. Turns out I had to run up to the ham radios and turn them off. Or blow up the radios on the desks etc. Once I figured that out the police station became a very fun place. Suddenly I was faced with an enemy that could kill me in one hit, period. So I had to really think before I went anywhere. Maybe this is why I had such fun with the DLC. I was fighting a lot more than just something with a huge gun or claws.
Before you make it into the casino, health is hard to come by. You can't sleep anywhere so that's out as a way to heal up. In the hospital the auto-docs can only heal your limbs. Which is huge, but it's not healing health. So things like food became more important than they'd ever been for me. I played most of that section of the game at about half health. There are no bottle caps, but there are these casino chips that can be used in vending machines to buy things. I chose to save them for ammo etc rather than spend them on food. Unless I really REALLY needed it. This really did add to the stress factor of the DLC, but that was really a good thing. If it wasn't for that, it would have been fairly boring (and much shorter). Once you make it into the casino you can use beds, and you can drink from water sources. Thus food goes back to something you ditch when cooler stuff comes along to be looted. And the combat changes more to a MGS style. Now there are holograms that patrol. You get caught by them, and they shoot you with some laser beam thing (and you can't hurt them at all). They don't do too much damage though so it isn't too frustrating.
So I'm sure you get an idea of what the DLC is like, more or less. You can find videos all over I'm sure. They added the coolest gun ever (the BAR. .308 light machine gun, more or less. Makes for a really fun gun to use) and gave some good enjoyable play time. I have but one complaint. One thing that really keeps me from loving this DLC. I feel like it was more fun than the Mothership Zeta addon from Fallout 3, but with a lot less content. It should not have been 10 bucks. So what is this complaint? It doesn't allow you play after beating the game, but I didn't really expect it to so that wasn't it. You can't go back, ever. You go there, build up all kinds of cool stuff and then once you leave, you can never go back. It just feels like a total bitch slap. I paid 10 bucks and I can't ever go back and play around in that place!? I want to go have fun in the Villa now that I've got Stem-packs and ammo out the wazoo again! I want to teach those fucking monsters what an upgraded hunting shotgun to the face is like. Give me a little revenge. But no. As you activate the gate it tells you "you're sure you'll never be able to find your way back to this place" and then you leave. Like that Pipboy on my wrist wouldn't be able to help me get back there. You get to see the Fallout style slide show ending, telling you what each person you encountered will do etc. And it's a really cool ending (at least for my actions). It hints heavily at the next DLC. Which, to me, sounds like DLC that will let you play after the ending. According to The Vault (The fallout Wiki) it has been stated that no DLC will let you play after the ending. I real hope this is not the case as I know there could be a lot of awesome new quests added. Or at the least have you play after the ending, but making you travel to California for whatever reason. But anyway, it really makes me wish I had New Vegas on the computer (and that the DLC was on more than just the 360 right now) so I could hack and go back there.
I paid 10 bucks, and got about 10 hours of gameplay (I just managed to beat it in one day). When you think of that on terms of other entertainment to dollar ratios it's really worth the money. A movie is like 8 bucks, and will barely give you 2 hours of fun. A book is rarely 10 hours of reading AND under 10 bucks. That being said, I have a lot of complaints with this DLC. I have noticed that I have more complaints with the new Fallout games than most any other game I've played. I see this as a good thing though. When you really use something, really love it, you start to see areas that you'd change and tweak. Not to make the game "good", because it already is, but to make it flow more to your tastes.
So first thing is first. If you have already played the Dead Money DLC, this paragraph will be mostly boringness, and thus should be skipped (unless you really like reading). Dead Money takes place before the end of the game. It raises the level cap by 5, and adds a few new perks. It also adds a whole new area to the game, but a very small one. After the DLC is loaded you get a radio broadcast that points to a pre-war casino out in the ΓΌber-boonies. You walk into the abandon BoS bunker (finally I figure out what it's for. It was really driving me nuts), get knocked out and lose EVERYTHING just like in The Pitt DLC from Fallout 3. Unlike the Pitt, you'll not see any of that gear until you leave. You wake up to a hologram that tells you that you must gather up a team to break into the casino. If you don't work together, he'll set off the bomb collar around your neck and find new people to do it.
The character I used was my level 30 character. The one I had been using to collect everything I could and go everywhere I could. So I was kinda pissed that I couldn't use my cool weapons. But I understand that the DLC would be "boring" if you walked into it with a million stem-packs and more ammo than you could ever use. This DLC played pretty much nothing like New Vegas did. I loved it! But I also love New Vegas. It's kinda hard to explain but it was a really fun little add on. So the area is set up like a European town. tiny cobbled roads (too small for cars), lots of tile and fountains. It's really quite beautiful. But of course, nothing in the wasteland looks like it did 200+ years ago, and this is no exception. There are new monsters that are a real pain (mostly because you have limited health without your mass of stem packs and lack of ammo caches worthy of a third world country) and this pollution that slowly drains your health while in it. And by slowly I mean "At level 30, I couldn't stand in the shit for a minute without dieing." There is nothing you can do about this. Hazmat suits are apparently destroyed by the stuff (the metal fittings at least. Trapping the wearer inside, at best) so, even if you had one, it wouldn't help. The monsters are humanoid, and wear some form of chemical suit that seems to either protect them, or protected them enough to let them built up an immunity to the crap. To kill these enemies, you need to break of a limb. If you deplete their health, they fall down dead for about 20 seconds, and then stand back up with full health and attack again. So you either target their limbs in vats, or knock them down and blow their head off with a shotgun when they finally go down. Their weapons aren't too bad to deal with at least. They have throwing spears, stabbing spears, bear trap fists and gas bombs. The gas bombs are kind of a pain, but they don't do too much damage and aren't used all that much.
I'd go more into detail about this DLC, but I'm not here to review games, I'm here to talk about the random crap that happens to me while playing them. So lets go do that!
First off there is a radio broadcast that will set off your bomb collar. So you have to do things like turn of ham radios (FINALLY! They get used for something. They kinda were in Fallout 3 I guess, but still. I've been turning them on for ever simply because I can) or shooting radios on the wall (feels like playing Metal Gear Solid at times). Oh and turning off the radio broadcasts via computer terminals (because some radios are bullet proof, or something). The first time you have to worry about this is when you go to pick up DOG. He is a super mutant (Nightkin) sitting in a cage in the police station. The second you walk in Elijah talks to you through your pipboy (he was the hologram dude). I didn't hear all of what he said the first time (I was busy playing a Frank Sinatra CD in the real world, because this place lacks the music stations. And because Frank Sinatra is awesome like that) and it proved to be pretty annoying to figure out what he meant. I see DOG sitting in a cage, crying or something, and start walking to him. My collar starts beeping. "Oh cool. It has like a tracking system in it or something" is exactly what I think to myself just before it blows my head off. Turns out I had to run up to the ham radios and turn them off. Or blow up the radios on the desks etc. Once I figured that out the police station became a very fun place. Suddenly I was faced with an enemy that could kill me in one hit, period. So I had to really think before I went anywhere. Maybe this is why I had such fun with the DLC. I was fighting a lot more than just something with a huge gun or claws.
Before you make it into the casino, health is hard to come by. You can't sleep anywhere so that's out as a way to heal up. In the hospital the auto-docs can only heal your limbs. Which is huge, but it's not healing health. So things like food became more important than they'd ever been for me. I played most of that section of the game at about half health. There are no bottle caps, but there are these casino chips that can be used in vending machines to buy things. I chose to save them for ammo etc rather than spend them on food. Unless I really REALLY needed it. This really did add to the stress factor of the DLC, but that was really a good thing. If it wasn't for that, it would have been fairly boring (and much shorter). Once you make it into the casino you can use beds, and you can drink from water sources. Thus food goes back to something you ditch when cooler stuff comes along to be looted. And the combat changes more to a MGS style. Now there are holograms that patrol. You get caught by them, and they shoot you with some laser beam thing (and you can't hurt them at all). They don't do too much damage though so it isn't too frustrating.
So I'm sure you get an idea of what the DLC is like, more or less. You can find videos all over I'm sure. They added the coolest gun ever (the BAR. .308 light machine gun, more or less. Makes for a really fun gun to use) and gave some good enjoyable play time. I have but one complaint. One thing that really keeps me from loving this DLC. I feel like it was more fun than the Mothership Zeta addon from Fallout 3, but with a lot less content. It should not have been 10 bucks. So what is this complaint? It doesn't allow you play after beating the game, but I didn't really expect it to so that wasn't it. You can't go back, ever. You go there, build up all kinds of cool stuff and then once you leave, you can never go back. It just feels like a total bitch slap. I paid 10 bucks and I can't ever go back and play around in that place!? I want to go have fun in the Villa now that I've got Stem-packs and ammo out the wazoo again! I want to teach those fucking monsters what an upgraded hunting shotgun to the face is like. Give me a little revenge. But no. As you activate the gate it tells you "you're sure you'll never be able to find your way back to this place" and then you leave. Like that Pipboy on my wrist wouldn't be able to help me get back there. You get to see the Fallout style slide show ending, telling you what each person you encountered will do etc. And it's a really cool ending (at least for my actions). It hints heavily at the next DLC. Which, to me, sounds like DLC that will let you play after the ending. According to The Vault (The fallout Wiki) it has been stated that no DLC will let you play after the ending. I real hope this is not the case as I know there could be a lot of awesome new quests added. Or at the least have you play after the ending, but making you travel to California for whatever reason. But anyway, it really makes me wish I had New Vegas on the computer (and that the DLC was on more than just the 360 right now) so I could hack and go back there.
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